Discord is nuking Nintendo Switch emulator devs and their entire servers (2024)

Discord has shut down the Discord servers for the Nintendo Switch emulators Suyu and Sudachi and has completely disabled their lead developers’ accounts — and the company isn’t answering our questions about why it went that far. Both Suyu and Sudachi began as forks of Yuzu, the emulator that Nintendo sued out of existence on March 4th.

“Discord responds to and complies with all legal and valid Digital Millennium Copyright Act requests. In this instance, there was also a court ordered injunction for the takedown of these materials, and we took action in a manner consistent with the court order,” reads part of a statement from Discord director of product communications Kellyn Slone to The Verge.

The developers of Suyu and Sudachi only received vague messages about how they were sharing content that allegedly violates intellectual property rights, according to images shared with The Verge. Meanwhile, Discord tells us that it’s following its normal process for DMCA takedown requests — but it’s not at all clear there was a valid DMCA takedown request or that those communities were actually violating IP rights, and it’s quite possible Discord isn’t following its own policy by kicking them out.

Remember, Nintendo got Yuzu to settle rather than proving its case in court, and the settlement did not give Nintendo the rights to Yuzu’s freely copyable GPL v3 code. Developers of Yuzu’s forks also claimed they were changing the code further, among other practices, in an effort to avoid pissing Nintendo off. And that code wasn’t hosted on Discord in any case.

But it’s possible that people were sharing Nintendo’s cryptographic keys, firmware, or even entire pirated games in these servers despite those commitments. At the end of the day, most people seeking out a Nintendo Switch emulator are looking to play Nintendo games on it. But with the servers gone, it’s hard to prove either way.

Even if Suyu and Sudachi were infringing, Discord’s policy does not suggest it would permaban, much less nuke entire servers, on the first offense. Discord did not answer questions about whether these users were repeat copyright infringers, had received any previous warnings, or were forwarded any takedown requests.

Sudachi developer Jarrod Norwell tells me it came out of the blue: “Their first email was that my account has broken the TOS, with no additional information.” He claims Sudachi wasn’t doing anything infringing. Later, he was told it vaguely had something to do with intellectual property but says Discord still hasn’t given him any details.

DMCA takedown requests are traditionally about content, not people or groups of people, and Discord’s policy is written to reflect that. A valid takedown request has to include a description of the content that’s infringing and where to find it; a platform then takes down the content, and users can get it reinstated if they file a “counter-notice” that claims it wasn’t actually infringing. At that point, Discord has done its job, and Nintendo can sue the developer directly if it wants by using the counter-notice to track them down.

But that doesn’t seem to be what happened here. It looks like Discord simply de-platformed these emulators by nuking their communication channels.

And while the court order that Discord mentions does ban some third parties from “providing, marketing, advertising, promoting....or otherwise trafficking in Yuzu or any source code or features of Yuzu,” it’s specifically talking about third parties “acting in active concert and participation with Defendant.” Discord would not tell me that any of the Yuzu developers were connected to the Suyu or Sudachi projects.

At the end of the day, platforms like Discord have no obligation to host anything they don’t want to host, as we discussed back when GitLab did something similar by deplatforming Suyu’s code. And perhaps Discord did see evidence of software piracy in these Discords. That’s not currently how it’s justifying these channel wipes, though.

For some Suyu developers, this may have been the last straw: an insider tells me that after infighting, one group has splintered off to do its own projects, which may or may not be related to emulation; here’s a Pastebin where a “real Suyu developer” claims the core development team has left the project because of Suyu’s “radioactivity” and its allegedly egotistic leader. (That leader does tend to bark out orders, from what insiders have shown me.)

Sudachi’s developer, meanwhile, tells me he’s still working on all his projects.

Nintendo isn’t just targeting Switch emulators with its latest round of takedowns but also some of the tools that aid them: it sent DMCA takedown requests to GitHub to remove 27 forks of the Sigpatch Updater, as well as Lockpick_RCM, kezplez-nx, and Incognito_RCM, which help Switch owners and developers obtain encryption keys.

Discord is nuking Nintendo Switch emulator devs and their entire servers (2024)


How are Discord servers nuked? ›

Discord server nuking essentially means destroying the server. This is achieved by deleting, banning, and modifying server settings to cause as much damage as possible. The ultimate goal is to render the server unusable, hence the term "nuke." Nuking is similar to raiding, with a generally more severe result.

Does Nintendo support Discord? ›

Yes, you can use Discord while playing Nintendo Switch.

Is Discord a threat? ›

Discord users face a variety of threats, from bullying and exposure to explicit content to malware and phishing scams. Because the site allows users to post and message links to other webpages, hackers can easily spread links to servers where malicious software is housed.

What Discord bot can nuke a server? ›

NukeBot | Discord App Directory.

Will consoles get Discord? ›

Discord was finally added to Xbox Series X/S in 2022, and the PS5 gained the same capability in March 2023. This means you can now play games and talk with friends on your next-gen game console, and everything is synchronized through Discord.

Can Discord connect to Nintendo Switch? ›

Since there is no app for Discord on the Nintendo Switch, you'll need a computer to get your Switch screen to stream then play the display screen in a window (using VLC or any other video player) so Discord will show it.

Will Switch get Discord? ›

Short Answer: Not Directly

Currently, you can't directly use Discord on the Nintendo Switch. While both Discord and the Switch are giants in the gaming world, there hasn't been an official integration between the two.

Can you get Discord on PS5? ›

To use Discord on your PS5® console, you need to link your account for Discord to your account for PlayStation™Network. Link your Discord account to PlayStation Network. Open the Discord app on your mobile device or computer, log in to your account for Discord, and then start or join a voice channel.

How to make a Discord rich presence? ›

Create an app by clicking "New Application" in the Discord Developers Portal. Give your app a name and an icon (this can be changed later). Make sure to save your changes. Optional: Go to "Rich Presence", and add a few images under the "Rich Presence Assets" section.

How to voice chat on Switch? ›

Enter the mode that supports voice chat over the Nintendo Switch Online app. On the smart device, select “Start” after receiving the prompt asking, “Start voice chat?” As you play online, other players using the Nintendo Switch Online app will join the voice chat lobby as they join your online game.

How do Discord servers get hacked? ›

On Discord, attackers spread malware by sending these links via direct messages or posting them in a shared channel. These links might lead to a direct download of malware, or they might direct you to a malicious website designed to trick you into downloading malware or providing sensitive information.

How to destroy a server in Discord? ›

Quick guide: deleting a Discord server
  1. In the app, select the Discord server you want to delete from the menu on the left.
  2. Tap the three dots next to the server name. ...
  3. Go to the “Settings” item.
  4. Tap on the three dots next to the heading “Server settings”.
  5. Select “Delete server”.
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Can police go through Discord? ›

Discord provides user information to these entities when we are in receipt of enforceable legal process. Discord works with law enforcement agencies in cases of immediate danger and/or self-harm, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2702.


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